Apparently, according to others, only the QB matters. KC’s D was 2nd last yr in pts & yds allowed, BTW. *

Edited by original poster [13:05:44 04/26/24]

Follow Ups:

• Another example is Denver 2015. Manning was not a good QB at that point.* - BayAreaBuck [13:24:17 04/26/24]
  • Broncos fan here. D carried them. Osweiler played last 6 games. Manning couldn’t throw >15yds downfield. * - G-Man [13:27:13 04/26/24]
    • I got to attend that Super Bowl in a suite. Denver D was great. Manning couldn’t throw (or run).* - BayAreaBuck [13:34:17 04/26/24]
      • Amazing performance by the D. Cam was brutalized that day. Never the same player afterward. * - G-Man [14:23:43 04/26/24]
      • Manning was an inner circle HOFer. * - Centauri2 [14:00:13 04/26/24]
        • Not in 2015 he wasn’t. You went to a diff era. I attended every home game and watched them all. * - G-Man [14:20:53 04/26/24]
          • Replace him with someone like Kirk Cousins, and the Broncos don't get the title. * - Centauri2 [14:41:40 04/26/24]
            • They replaced him w Osweiler and still might’ve gotten the title w Brock in the SB. PM took snaps, that’s all. * - G-Man [14:48:38 04/26/24]
              • The Broncos went and got Peyton because they needed a good QB to put them over the top. * - Centauri2 [15:08:28 04/26/24]
                • In 2012, yes. Peyton was great; D blew playoff against Ravens. In 2015, D was great, and Peyton stunk.* - BayAreaBuck [15:51:03 04/26/24]
                • Correct. But in 2015, Denver finished in the bottom 1/2 of NFL in pts, pass O & total O. * - G-Man [15:50:46 04/26/24]
                  • where did they finish in playoff wins? * - Centauri2 [15:55:31 04/26/24]
                    • #1 thx to the D, which shut down Pitt (16 pts vs 25 avg), NE (18 vs 28) & Car (10 vs 31) - G-Man [18:03:22 04/26/24]
            • LOL. You must have not watched any football that year.* - BayAreaBuck [14:46:25 04/26/24]
              • I’m completely dizzy from how much the goalposts are moving in this discussion 😵‍💫 * - G-Man [14:50:10 04/26/24]
        • Of course, but he was a liability in 2015. Check his stats that year. Putrid.* - BayAreaBuck [14:05:08 04/26/24]