Given Penix’s experience, he may be ready for spot duty if Cousins gets dinged. As some claim, only QB matters.*
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By
BayAreaBuck
on 11:40:05 04/26/24
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Then why sign Cousins? *
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DaytonBuck
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I added another 20 names for consideration to the original message chain down the board *
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G-Man
[12:36:52 04/26/24]
You went to a different era. The game is different today, and today no QB means no title. *
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Centauri2
[12:49:50 04/26/24]
Fine, back to my original post. Rodgers? He hasn't been a Top 2-3 QB last decade?
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G-Man
[12:57:07 04/26/24]
Good or elite QB doesn't guarantee a title. Not having a good or elite QB guarantees you won't win one. *
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Centauri2
[13:59:06 04/26/24]
“QB is the only position in the NFL that matters.” Your words, not mine. So Nick Foles is good/elite?
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G-Man
[14:18:40 04/26/24]
A good counter example. *
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Centauri2
[14:40:37 04/26/24]
Meaning . . . ? *
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G-Man
[14:51:42 04/26/24]
Meaning, do not confuse our blanket assertions with facts! *
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Razorbuck
[14:54:00 04/26/24]
Found 1 exception, from 10 years ago. So 1 out of 10, 1 out of 20 champs have average QB play.
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Centauri2
[15:09:55 04/26/24]
1 out of 10 prev champs have a scoring D outside the Top 10. Purely a coincidence, I’m sure. 🤦♂️ *
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G-Man
[16:02:15 04/26/24]
Took 2 full days, but NOW you’re getting it. “Team” is the operative word. MORE
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G-Man
[15:19:44 04/26/24]
Maybe someday you will get it, but something tells me not to hold my breath.
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Centauri2
[15:40:55 04/26/24]
By your reasoning, then, maybe 2 teams have the QB to win it. Surely the other 30 owners have btr use for their $. *
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G-Man
[15:59:02 04/26/24]
Kinda sounds like that, doesn’t it? 😂 *
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G-Man
[14:56:59 04/26/24]
Guarantees? No. But you better have an exceptional D.*
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BayAreaBuck
[14:07:13 04/26/24]
Strictly coincidental, I’m sure, but only 1 of the prev 10 champs had a D outside the T10 in pts allowed/game *
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G-Man
[15:46:43 04/26/24]
McMahon is another good example. Serviceable QB, but not the reason Bears won. (m)
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BayAreaBuck
[12:49:39 04/26/24]
Apparently, according to others, only the QB matters. KC’s D was 2nd last yr in pts & yds allowed, BTW. *
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G-Man
[12:58:14 04/26/24]
Another example is Denver 2015. Manning was not a good QB at that point.*
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BayAreaBuck
[13:24:17 04/26/24]
Broncos fan here. D carried them. Osweiler played last 6 games. Manning couldn’t throw >15yds downfield. *
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G-Man
[13:27:13 04/26/24]
I got to attend that Super Bowl in a suite. Denver D was great. Manning couldn’t throw (or run).*
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BayAreaBuck
[13:34:17 04/26/24]
Amazing performance by the D. Cam was brutalized that day. Never the same player afterward. *
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G-Man
[14:23:43 04/26/24]
Manning was an inner circle HOFer. *
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Centauri2
[14:00:13 04/26/24]
Not in 2015 he wasn’t. You went to a diff era. I attended every home game and watched them all. *
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G-Man
[14:20:53 04/26/24]
Replace him with someone like Kirk Cousins, and the Broncos don't get the title. *
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Centauri2
[14:41:40 04/26/24]
They replaced him w Osweiler and still might’ve gotten the title w Brock in the SB. PM took snaps, that’s all. *
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G-Man
[14:48:38 04/26/24]
The Broncos went and got Peyton because they needed a good QB to put them over the top. *
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Centauri2
[15:08:28 04/26/24]
In 2012, yes. Peyton was great; D blew playoff against Ravens. In 2015, D was great, and Peyton stunk.*
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BayAreaBuck
[15:51:03 04/26/24]
Correct. But in 2015, Denver finished in the bottom 1/2 of NFL in pts, pass O & total O. *
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G-Man
[15:50:46 04/26/24]
where did they finish in playoff wins? *
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Centauri2
[15:55:31 04/26/24]
#1 thx to the D, which shut down Pitt (16 pts vs 25 avg), NE (18 vs 28) & Car (10 vs 31)
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G-Man
[18:03:22 04/26/24]
LOL. You must have not watched any football that year.*
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BayAreaBuck
[14:46:25 04/26/24]
I’m completely dizzy from how much the goalposts are moving in this discussion 😵💫 *
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G-Man
[14:50:10 04/26/24]
Of course, but he was a liability in 2015. Check his stats that year. Putrid.*
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BayAreaBuck
[14:05:08 04/26/24]
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