I added another 20 names for consideration to the original message chain down the board *

Edited by original poster [12:41:00 04/26/24]

Follow Ups:

• You went to a different era. The game is different today, and today no QB means no title. * - Centauri2 [12:49:50 04/26/24]
  • Fine, back to my original post. Rodgers? He hasn't been a Top 2-3 QB last decade? - G-Man [12:57:07 04/26/24]
    • Good or elite QB doesn't guarantee a title. Not having a good or elite QB guarantees you won't win one. * - Centauri2 [13:59:06 04/26/24]
      • “QB is the only position in the NFL that matters.” Your words, not mine. So Nick Foles is good/elite? - G-Man [14:18:40 04/26/24]
        • A good counter example. * - Centauri2 [14:40:37 04/26/24]
          • Meaning . . . ? * - G-Man [14:51:42 04/26/24]
            • Meaning, do not confuse our blanket assertions with facts! * - Razorbuck [14:54:00 04/26/24]
              • Found 1 exception, from 10 years ago. So 1 out of 10, 1 out of 20 champs have average QB play. - Centauri2 [15:09:55 04/26/24]
                • 1 out of 10 prev champs have a scoring D outside the Top 10. Purely a coincidence, I’m sure. 🤦‍♂️ * - G-Man [16:02:15 04/26/24]
                • Took 2 full days, but NOW you’re getting it. “Team” is the operative word. MORE - G-Man [15:19:44 04/26/24]
                  • Maybe someday you will get it, but something tells me not to hold my breath. - Centauri2 [15:40:55 04/26/24]
                    • By your reasoning, then, maybe 2 teams have the QB to win it. Surely the other 30 owners have btr use for their $. * - G-Man [15:59:02 04/26/24]
              • Kinda sounds like that, doesn’t it? 😂 * - G-Man [14:56:59 04/26/24]
      • Guarantees? No. But you better have an exceptional D.* - BayAreaBuck [14:07:13 04/26/24]
        • Strictly coincidental, I’m sure, but only 1 of the prev 10 champs had a D outside the T10 in pts allowed/game * - G-Man [15:46:43 04/26/24]
• McMahon is another good example. Serviceable QB, but not the reason Bears won. (m) - BayAreaBuck [12:49:39 04/26/24]
  • Apparently, according to others, only the QB matters. KC’s D was 2nd last yr in pts & yds allowed, BTW. * - G-Man [12:58:14 04/26/24]
    • Another example is Denver 2015. Manning was not a good QB at that point.* - BayAreaBuck [13:24:17 04/26/24]
      • Broncos fan here. D carried them. Osweiler played last 6 games. Manning couldn’t throw >15yds downfield. * - G-Man [13:27:13 04/26/24]
        • I got to attend that Super Bowl in a suite. Denver D was great. Manning couldn’t throw (or run).* - BayAreaBuck [13:34:17 04/26/24]
          • Amazing performance by the D. Cam was brutalized that day. Never the same player afterward. * - G-Man [14:23:43 04/26/24]
          • Manning was an inner circle HOFer. * - Centauri2 [14:00:13 04/26/24]
            • Not in 2015 he wasn’t. You went to a diff era. I attended every home game and watched them all. * - G-Man [14:20:53 04/26/24]
              • Replace him with someone like Kirk Cousins, and the Broncos don't get the title. * - Centauri2 [14:41:40 04/26/24]
                • They replaced him w Osweiler and still might’ve gotten the title w Brock in the SB. PM took snaps, that’s all. * - G-Man [14:48:38 04/26/24]
                  • The Broncos went and got Peyton because they needed a good QB to put them over the top. * - Centauri2 [15:08:28 04/26/24]
                    • In 2012, yes. Peyton was great; D blew playoff against Ravens. In 2015, D was great, and Peyton stunk.* - BayAreaBuck [15:51:03 04/26/24]
                    • Correct. But in 2015, Denver finished in the bottom 1/2 of NFL in pts, pass O & total O. * - G-Man [15:50:46 04/26/24]
                      • where did they finish in playoff wins? * - Centauri2 [15:55:31 04/26/24]
                        • #1 thx to the D, which shut down Pitt (16 pts vs 25 avg), NE (18 vs 28) & Car (10 vs 31) - G-Man [18:03:22 04/26/24]
                • LOL. You must have not watched any football that year.* - BayAreaBuck [14:46:25 04/26/24]
                  • I’m completely dizzy from how much the goalposts are moving in this discussion 😵‍💫 * - G-Man [14:50:10 04/26/24]
            • Of course, but he was a liability in 2015. Check his stats that year. Putrid.* - BayAreaBuck [14:05:08 04/26/24]